Happy Mother-Tuckin' Mother's Day

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

Alright, this is Brenda and Stacy with Let's Wine with Brenda and Stacy, and we're here for a Mother's Day episode since Mother's Day is May 10th, this Sunday coming up. How do you feel about that, Stacy? I'm excited.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

I think Mother's Day is well deserved. It is. I mean, we've earned that. Our mothers have earned that. Our grandmothers, our aunts. I just feel like any woman in your life who's ever given something to your life deserves gratitude. Yes. And appreciation. Love and women be a woman. Only we can understand this. So this should be more like a woman's day to all the women who have ever given anything to another person.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

I would say even men too, because some men have to play the role as mother and father.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

So if they're standing in, we salute you too. Because it's not an easy job.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

It's not. Parenting is hard. I mean, that's one of the things that I would tell you. I've raised my kids believing they were hard. You make it sound like I know, like it was criminal. It's not that it's criminal. It's just it was hard. And I want young moms to know this. We see them. Yeah. You know what I mean? We see the I see the young moms. I see what they go through, and I appreciate them. Even if the whole society is shit on them, I still think, carry on, ladies. Y'all have to. Right. I mean, because now things are so far out of control that it's unbelievable. I believe that, yes. And the other things I used to feel like as a mom, a parent and a teacher could almost like team up and be as far as education goes with these children, because moms are in charge of that. And I just feel like I've heard from teachers that parents they've checked out. They've checked out. So moms, you can't check out. These children are our future. Literally.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

Right. Again, I go back to the technology for some reason. Oh, you know, I think I said it in another episode when Curry and I had little Nessa and we went to the mall, they all the parents had checked out. You know, nuds. I I just don't get it.

SPEAKER_00 2:04

As scary as being a mom is, don't have children if you don't want to mother them. I would just like to put that out in the universe.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

Do you think age has anything to do with it? Well, the only reason I'm saying that, and it's not everybody. Gentlemen I used to work with talked about how he noticed that parents over 40 had checked out. He mentioned going to soccer games and that you could look around and see these parents over 40 just letting the kids do whatever they're reading papers or phones or whatever they're doing. And I don't know. They're there are parents that waited later, I think, to have children and that they're just not as involved.

SPEAKER_00 2:35

I think parents who wait to be older parents have made a decision though. You'd think. We didn't go, oh, I'm going into this to get pregnant today. That was not our thoughts. I think the kids just make them tired. But I respect older parents who they already have their shit together. And who actually parent. Yeah, their kids well taken care of. They have the means, they have their life in order. Like when we've talked about when we were younger and we were parenting, our lives were pretty much chaotic. And then we were trying to make this kid fit into everything.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

We did it. But we did it. I think I only say that because I did have an older mother. And I wasn't happy about it like when I was a teenager. Of course I outgrew it as I got older, but I don't know. I I didn't like the fact that my mother was the age of all my friends' grandparents. I mean, I I just wasn't feeling it then, but you know, as I got older, it it didn't matter so much. And things don't. As you get older, you're able to kind of it clicks.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

It starts clicking. Yeah. I think as mothers, the most important thing that we want for our children is for them to evolve and move on, grow up.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

Right, because someday we're gonna be the matriarch. I've become that. And that's hard on me. But you know, I didn't have a complete breakdown over it where I see some people they're like, well, you know, everything just went to shit after I lost my mom. I've lost my mom, my dad, my husband. It's just I've become the matriarch of the family, and I didn't ask for it. As adults, they still come to me, you know, wanting opinions. It might be a wrong opinion. Yeah, and of course, they're gonna do what they want anyway, and they should. They're adults. They can do what they want, they can come and go and do as they please.

SPEAKER_00 4:15

Absolutely. I'm ecstatic. I've lived my life long enough for my adult child to tell me I'm a grown man. And I will do what I want. I am um it was not the one you think who told me that. So that's funny. It means it took me back for a minute and I felt like I'd been shot in the heart. Oh, I know. Like, oh my god, I'm not in charge of this. And then it made me proud. Like, yeah. I raised a man who can tell his mother You're not in charge of me. And I'm doing fine. Yes, you are.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

Your boys are doing fine.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

Yeah, yeah. I mean, as as a parent, I just need to go, yay. I did it, and they're fine, and they're doing their thing, and of course, I would never not be here if they needed anything. You know, if one of them called me, I skip my knee on the band-aid, I would drive 45 minutes to, you know, 12 hours to uh both of them. And you know, you need me, you need me.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

I'm here, but they don't need need me to survive. When you were little, what kind of gifts did you give your mother for Mother's Day?

SPEAKER_00 5:26

I mean, I'm sure a lot of handmade stuff and it used to be a school activity. Right. I got placemats and all kinds of stuff up there. Yeah, activity. I don't even know if these children do this anymore. I don't it's kind of sad. It is kind of sad. I wrote the poems, made the cards, you know, that kind of thing. Mm-hmm. Draw, write letters. Because nobody's taking you shopping to spend what, $1.29 on a card at Hallmark. Now they're like $18.99 for a card.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

I remember when I was a teenager and I had one of my first jobs. I had my own money and I bought my mother a coffee maker, thinking that's what she wanted, and she didn't. You know, she was an instant coffee, and I think that's where I got it from. I like being able to control like if I want more or less, or I don't want to waste any. So I got her a coffee maker, she never used it. Mm-hmm. Biggest mistake in my life. Well, I wouldn't say the biggest. Well with with Mother's Day gifts, put it that way. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. Well, I have a couple questions for you just for fun. Okay, unless um you know any of these. How old do you think the oldest mother ever was to give birth? Oh, to give birth. To give birth. How old do you think the oldest is? Yeah, I would say somewhere in the 50s. And it wasn't all that long ago. It was 2019. 74. Stop. 74, but with the help of IVF. Why would you want to? There was also another um person in Berlin in 2025 that was 66. IVF. IVF. Tenth child. That that there alone, that's another topic. But there are some natural births. How do you do you think the oldest natural birth is? 50s. 67. And that was in 2019. That's supposed to be natural, and she evidently ovulated after her last period. There was still an ovulation going on. Well, I I supposedly it was natural.

SPEAKER_00 7:11

Uh I know.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

I'll do some more reading on that because my curiosity.

SPEAKER_00 7:15

Ken's say our problem with IVF for people who are young and they're struggling to have a child and they need that. For these old, we'll say old because we can call ourselves old now. For these old women to use IVF to have children, I disagree.

SPEAKER_01 7:31

And you know, IVF is one of those things where I, because I was adopted, it's one of those things like, go adopt one. You know, there's so many children without homes. Well, I mean, see, I wasn't thinking about that way, but you're exactly right. I don't know. It makes me think, you know, why bring more into the world? There's evidently a reason. I want to believe there's a reason for everything.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

Do you feel anything with your adoptive mother? Anything. No. Nothing. Nothing.

SPEAKER_01 7:54

Just have no No, because I was only two days old. You have no will, drive, questions. Not at this age. When I was younger, I always wanted to see a picture of her. I just wanted to know if she was pretty. For some reason that always kind of stuck out. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I had my parents and they're gone now. And now at this age, I just I'm not looking for somebody to mother me, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_00 8:15

You could never say because I wasn't good enough. You were two days old. Right. It it's not like you were ten and she said, fuck this, this is hard. I'm not doing it.

SPEAKER_01 8:24

I know.

SPEAKER_00 8:26

Yeah. You're two days old. So she had already pre-made, like this decision was made while you were in the womb. Right. To me, that screams. There was something going on in her life that that was a choice. Right. A lot of people had to make decisions for that to happen. Right. I would just like to know what the headspace was. There's no telling. You don't care. I don't care.

SPEAKER_01 8:49

I know I really don't care. You know, that's my oldest daughter. I'll call her out. Camille. She's the one that is, you know, looking for family. Primarily health reasons. I think that's a big deal. But I've noticed she's put some cousins and things that we found on Ancestry on her Facebook and has talked to some people. And I'll let her handle it.

SPEAKER_00 9:08

You can't blame her for wanting uh curious.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

I think when I put it in perspective, health-wise, it's very strange to me to think that Camille Curry and then Camille's children, Lily and Lark, are the only blood relatives I know of on the planet. Aside from whatever ancestry's kind of plugged in for like third, fourth, fifth cousins. Yeah. It's just as far as close to me and my little network, I only have four relatives.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

Christina, I wish you were blood related.

SPEAKER_00 9:33

I don't have many more than you. I mean, my family's tiny. Tiny, yeah. We don't have anybody either, so I guess we just pick and choose our family and trying to make friends, but that's a whole nother episode. It's hard. I can't do it. I want to. I know. I want to be friendly.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

We are friendly, but it's hard to train a new one. All right, who do you think had the most children ever?

SPEAKER_00 9:57

Obviously not Octa Mom. Nope, it's not Octa Mom. There is um there's a special about her that's different.

SPEAKER_01 10:04

Yeah, that's crazy. She had 14 children total. Ugh.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

I I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 10:09

You want to guess? You don't even want to guess at that one. Well, like, am I guessing a number? A number of children. From one person. Nineteen. Sixty-seven.

SPEAKER_00 10:19

She has six.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

No, sixty-nine.

SPEAKER_00 10:22

She had sixty-nine children out of her twine.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

Okay. This goes back to the 1700s, but it was all documented by a monastery, and they did their due diligence, and she is actually in the Guinness World Record Book. And it said that she had sixteen pairs of twins. So there was something genetically going on. Seven sets of triplets and four quadruplets. Sixty-nine children total. 67 survived infancy. They made it through that first year. And to top this off, the dad, Theodore, he had another 18 children with his second wife. So he had a total of 87 children. Shut up. That's what they said. Talk about overpopulating the planet. I know. Well, he needs to rub her up. They probably didn't have that then. No birth control, nothing. That's all they had no TV to watch, so that's all they were doing. I would my birth control be like, don't touch me.

SPEAKER_00 11:18

I know.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

It says she had 27 pregnancies.

SPEAKER_00 11:21

Can you imagine? No. That's like 27 years of your life pregnant. 27 pregnancies. No.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Can you imagine how tore up that woman was? Mm-mm. I know. I know. And to top that off, think of all those babies at one time. That would drive me crazy. And one of the facts when I was looking things up, it says that new moms get an average of four to six hours of broken sleep a night. And you remember the day. Yeah. It's like here they go again. The minute you start to doze off, you hear that. And then it and then it tears into it. Mm-hmm. It's like, damn, I gotta get up again. It's like I love you, but damn.

SPEAKER_00 12:03

I know. And then I I remember like being so paranoid, waking up every few minutes thinking they were gonna start breathing. But they woke me up enough to believe they were still breathing. But then that night, it just happened, and they sleep the night through. That wake up moment of fear. Oh my god, they died. Yeah. I mean, that is a real feeling of oh my god, I slept all night. They're dead.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

They drove.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

Well, they do, babies do pass away in their sleep. And it's sad.

SPEAKER_00 12:35

And it's awful. And I can't imagine. But that was just a fear until I don't know, they bumped their head one too many times and lived through it, and I'm like, oh, they got this. Did you let your baby sleep on her stomach or the back? I remember it being like a thing. I think we were starting to do side sleeping.

SPEAKER_01 12:55

Roll a little receiving blanket up underneath them.

SPEAKER_00 12:58

Underneath them, and they had to do side sleeping so that if they throw up, then they could eat.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

Yeah, that was the fear then, you know, you put them on their back in case they throw up and choke on it. Camille was a stomach sleeper. She always kind of ended up on her stomach, and that's where she wanted to be and slept the best. Curry was a thrasher. So there was no it's like pretty quick. I don't remember any morning she was in a different position.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

I mean, there was no rhyme or reason to it.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

She was a thrasher. Both of my kids were good sleepers. Both of them, I could go in and change the sheets on their cribs while they were sleeping. I would go in and change their sheets while they were asleep and put the fresh ones back on so that that tour was done when they woke up. But they were such good sleepers. But somewhere along the way, I don't know where I heard, read something, not to be quiet for them. All the noises they're used to hearing in the womb, even though they're muffled, do it every day. So if you vacuum every day, vacuum. I could vacuum under their crib.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

And now they're both great sleepers. Oh, Camille was one I could vacuum around the house and stuff when once she started sleeping through the night. It was pretty safe. Curry was my screamer. I love her to pieces, but I swear she screamed for nine months straight. It was pure torture. I don't I don't know what was her deal was. Curry, Jesus. My dad would come over and hold her and walk her in front of the sliding glass door because for some reason she liked to look out there and he lived in the same neighborhood, so it was easy. For him to come over and he would just hold her so I could go take a shower. That's how bad it was. It was awful. Awful. But uh we survived it. Now she's my baby. She's the one that ate fried green tomatoes with me. We did it. 32 years old now. I don't know. We did it.

SPEAKER_00 14:43

Kudos to all the moms. I know. You had big babies too, didn't you? Oh. Yes, they were uh Tyler's 9-11 and uh Scotty was 10-11. I was 10-3. I was right in the middle of it. Yeah, Scotty always sees me, Mom. I have to say the baby because if you have another one, it's gonna be 11-11. Imagine that. You know. The babies are the babies. Uh Tyler and Scott changed my life forever for the better. You should get a happy Mother's Day. And kind of, I feel like being a young mom, I know you feel this way, you kind of grew up with them.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

I did, and I felt like I was able to do a lot with them. I don't know. Like if I had been an older mom, maybe the energy wouldn't have, you know, escaped me early on. But I feel that I don't have the energy now that I did then, which I don't, and I felt like I was the one riding roller coasters with them and we did stuff all the time, and I had this energy to put into them being young. And I don't think I could have done that at 3540. I'd have been.

SPEAKER_00 15:38

Yeah, I remember riding elephants, you know, with Tyler and Scott and going places that were hot and theme parks and I don't want to do that now. We did it. If somebody rode an elephant up to the front door and said, just hop on, we'll go for a ride. I'd be like, no, I wouldn't do that.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

But I did that for these kids back in the line for those kids, yes. I was a Girl Scout mom. Do you know how many camping trips I went on? If you told me we're going camping now, uh-uh. I don't even want to be outside for 10 minutes. I don't want to do it.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

Oh, I don't either. I mean it's just it's hot out there. Well, I think it's like God gives us motherhood when we're younger.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

Well, I was gonna say, you know, the motherhood thing, it's like it's part of our lives that have changed now to menopausal. So it's somehow we got hotter. Maybe the earth is hurling closer to the sun. I don't know, but it's hotter now. Doesn't it feel hotter than it did 20 years ago?

SPEAKER_00 16:34

Oh gosh, yes. If I had a little one right now and I'd take it to an amusement park. Oh, I'd die. I know. Even today it's what, 74 outside? No way, Jose. Is it really? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 16:46

It felt like eight something. The other day at work, you know, some of the older people are like, I'm cold. I'm like, it's 110 in here.

SPEAKER_00 16:52

Mm-hmm. Sit down.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Put a sweater on, Margaret.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

Guess what the heaviest baby was recorded? 13, 14? 22 pounds. Yeah. And was 28 inches long, and the poor thing passed away after 11 hours. These are things you can search on the internet. There's tons of babies that are 13 and 14 pounds. Fairly recently.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

Yeah, they're they're making them bigger now.

SPEAKER_00 17:16

Well, I think it's because all that processed stuff we but I love a big baby.

SPEAKER_01 17:20

You should see the pictures of them. I know and you can't. I know meat. I know I love a big I hate scrawny babies.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

Well, you don't hate them.

SPEAKER_01 17:27

I don't hate them. I just I look at them and say, hmm.

SPEAKER_00 17:30

Yeah, it's uncomfortable to hold a scrawny baby. I'm used to chunkier.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

I know, I like a big one.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

Yeah. I mean, Scotty was so big he couldn't wear we had bought newborn pampers and he couldn't wear the diapers. We had bought newborn clothes and he couldn't wear he'd sized out pretty quick.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

Yeah. Well, I can't my mom said I came home like I'm solid food. I mean, not that it was like cereal in the formula, I think was what it was. It wasn't like me chawing down on a turkey leg, but yeah. That came it a month later.

SPEAKER_00 18:01

Yeah, I did that with Tyler, but with Scotty, they were like, he doesn't need that.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

Did he come home hungry?

SPEAKER_00 18:07

He came home hungry. And I was like, he didn't need it. They said not to do it. But I ended up doing it. Were you breastfeeding? No, neither one of my kids would latch.

SPEAKER_01 18:17

I don't know. I felt like too much liquid did something to their stomach, you know, when they needed the food. By the time they hit that certain weight first to thicken it. Me too.

SPEAKER_00 18:24

You had to clip the nipples. Yeah. Yeah. So they could suck cereal. Yeah. Yeah, I did that. My nanny taught me that. Because I was up every few hours and I was just exhausted. Yeah, and mine were looking for food. Yeah. They need to eat, you need to give them cereal. And I was like, no, you can't do that. It's too soon. You know, reading the books and the manuals.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

What do those doctors know?

SPEAKER_00 18:48

No, all that stuff. I know. My name was like, I have five kids and help raise you. My God, we're gonna give him because she would just look at me and just, oh my god, honey. You know, I have five kids and you look wore out, but um, I was worn out. Yeah. Tyler was the most exhausting thing that ever happened to me. And it's crazy because you're so exhausted, but you're so in love. I know that baby just I feel like is another thing God gives you to be so in love with your baby as a mother, just like you just want to huff it. And you can't imagine.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

You want to melt into them.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

Yeah, you can't imagine it ever being out of your life.

SPEAKER_01 19:29

I think the best moment I had, well, of course, Camille being the first baby, it was my first experience with this. She was two months old and she was sitting on my thighs, that first smile. The first smile I remember getting butterflies in my stomach. And I was young, you know, I just thought it was the most amazing thing. Yeah. She was a neat baby.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

Yeah, my baby can smile. Mm-hmm. I know. Tyler, you know how most babies they'd do their little hand flaps and they say, Hold me. He said, I want to hold you. Aww. I know. So you were never too busy. I mean, you know, I want to hold you, is how he would say it. I don't know how he learned that. Oh, Tyler. I know. I was 17 years old. I didn't know what to do with a baby. And then you know how you build all these things up. That's not how I pictured it. I know. Oh, I know. This is not the picture. So I think you get that baby smile. You get that baby love. You stare at your baby forever. And even now I catch myself looking at them and how they behave and how they act. Oh, I do too. And I try not to. It's like, oh, they're adults. I shouldn't be done this.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

I couldn't help it. When I went to Juliet that we talked about on the Fried Green Tomatoes episode, when I went to see Curry, I had a box of memorabilia from her plays and concerts, and I took this walk down memory lane with her, kind of going through everything. And just looked at her and can't can't believe she's 32. And Camila's 38, about to turn 39, and I think it hit me that next year, calendar year, I will have a 40-year-old. How in the hell do I have a 40-year-old? I don't know. I look like a baby. I look younger than she does.

SPEAKER_00 21:05

That sounds like your problem.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

I just can't believe it.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

I just can't I know I can't either.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

But cheers to Mother's Day. Yes, cheers to Mother's Day and all the mothers out there and the have the war stories and the horror stories and the that mostly ultimately ends up being the happiest stories. They are are the funniest. And the fun yeah. I know. And somehow you a lot of people, whether they're mad at them or not, like my old mom. It's one of those things where you get protective of them. You know, good or bad, you get protective. And you know, back in the 80s, it was like, Your mama. It's like, don't talk about my mama.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

No. I know, I'll cut you. Uh no. I can say whatever I want about my mom, but you can't. That's right. That's right. For sure. God bless the mamas.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

You had a pretty mom. You had one of them, Stacy's mom. Did people sing Stacy's mom to you all the time?

SPEAKER_00 21:59

Yeah, I always Older when it came out, she's just always been pretty. And it was funny because I always felt like her being so pretty, it helped me with jealousy. It was like, how can I be jealous of other people my age who are pretty when I have the prettiest person in the world? Yeah. Was her to me.

SPEAKER_01 22:19

Were you ever jealous of your mom?

SPEAKER_00 22:22

I think probably um when the boys started paying more attention to her than they did to me, she's young, she's a young mom, and she's so pretty, and she wasn't interested in a 13-year-old boy. You know what I mean? But yeah, I think that, you know, there for a while until I got my boobs, they want to come seek her.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

Did she pray around the house in bikini? Let out in the yard. No, no.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

No, no, she didn't uh provoke any of that. She wasn't, you know, like, hey, look at me. None of that. She's never been that way.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

Right.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

Which I think makes her prettier. So she got but she's pretty. She's still pretty.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

Mm-hmm. Oh, she is. So you're gonna have to wish her a happy birthday out there soon. Happy birthday. She's turning 70.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

I know. She doesn't look it. No. She's still one of the prettiest people I know. But my nanny was pretty and her mom was pretty. So I can't help that it just has falling down toward me a little bit of the, you know. It's funny. It is funny. It is. But it's true. It's true. Moms are moms, and I would be remiss if I ended the show without mentioning my sans. She's been in my life since I was four years old. One of the strongest people I know. Put up with more shit than I would have ever. Right. To be my dad, and I love him more than life too. They're amazing. They're an amazing couple. I'm grateful for her. The first thing I ever remember about her, she picked me up one day from somewhere. I was four years old. Never forget, we're driving through Riverdale, Georgia. She drives a Volkswagen bug. You know, and which color was it? I it was like a pale color, like an ivory or a yellow, like maybe a light blue. I don't know. It was a pale color. But I'll never forget. So we were driving through Riverdale, and uh her car breaks down. She pulls off to the side of the road. It's like and I've never been in a situation like this in my whole life that I remembered. Your whole four years. My whole four years. And she said, I'll be right back. So she runs around the back of the car and she comes back and she cranks it up, and we we get to my daddy. And I thought, She's amazing. This one's my hero. From that moment on, she's been superwoman to me. Like there's nothing you can throw at her that she can't handle. Good for her. She unconditionally loves us. Me and my kids and my daddy won the command presence. You know what that means? Like she has a peaceful presence. Well, you've been around her, you know. Yeah, she's fun. Everything is not the sky is falling. Everything is not the end of the world. It's it's gonna be okay. This and this and this is happening, but it's gonna be okay. I think that's a little bit where I get my it's gonna be okay from. That is so sweet. We're gonna survive. And if if if we can't, we'll call Sansana, she'll figure it out for us. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Everybody needs a sansana.

SPEAKER_00 25:14

I mean, don't you love a sans? Yes. I mean, I have been blessed with the women in my life. I love them. My grandmother's. I have partied with the sans. Yes. My grandmother's. Well, you partied with the mom. Mm-hmm. Uh my grandmother's my mama. All of the women in my life have been um extraordinary. And so I'm very blessed.

SPEAKER_01 25:36

My grandmother on my mother's side was my favorite person. I didn't get to know my dad's parents. That's an one another drawback of having older parents. You really don't get a lot of time with your grandparents. And my grandmother was 40 when she had my mother. So I grew up with, you know, she was in her 80s, but she was a very fun person. And she was one of those who never got deep wrinkles. She swore by oil of Ole. Okay. And my mother was very quiet and their blood, mother and daughter. And I can remember my Aunt Marie saying to my grandmother, I just walked in on them and I heard the conversation. She was saying, Janet, who was my mother, sure never got your personality, talking about, you know, her mom. It's like my grandmother was so boisterous and fun, and you know, she walked into a room and it lit up, you know, one of those people. Whereas mom, you didn't know she was in the room unless she went. She didn't speak unless spoken to, just always a very quiet person. Until the dementia really kicked in later. It was that was a different person, but obviously you get your outrageous personality from your grandmother. I think so because when my mother worked, you know, I would stay with them because they were retired, of course, so I was able to spend a lot of time at my grandparents' house, and I adored, you know, both of them, my grandmother and grandfather, and they died a month apart from each other. That's precious. It is. It really is. I think he died of a broken heart. I l really think that, you know, it they couldn't handle being apart. That really does is a thing. It is a thing. And it's sad. It is awful. And I was twelve when I lost both of them, and that was hard.

unknown 27:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

That was hard when I remember my mom taking me out of school for a little bit. I think I was in like eighth grade. And it was rough, but got through that too. You gotta just keep going. And then a few years later, you had Camille, so yeah. You're here. Camille, come on. And uh you're here now. I know, but I was lucky. She was a good baby.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

Good baby.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:27

We were lucky.

unknown 27:28

I know.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

Because both of us have said before, if we had that second one first, there'd be no second one. I know. And Curry is such a special person.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

She's just a hard baby. So it's Scotty. Just a hard baby. Damn. I know. And Christina, you know, my bonus. I she was 10 when I met her. So I feel like there's the easy one. No bottles, no diapers, nothing. Christina came shrink-wrapped, ready-made, perfect. And she was a good kid.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

So smart, so fun, so pretty.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

I mean here she has grown up, got a good husband, doing her thing in college.

SPEAKER_00 28:03

I'm so proud of all of them. And I know, you know, I know how Jeff helped raise Kelly, and she's doing amazing. You know, these kids are just we're so lucky.

SPEAKER_01 28:13

I know. And it's funny now to look at Camille being a mom. Christina has kids. You know, Christina married into some kids too, so she gets to know what it's like. Yeah. I know. Fun times. It is. It really is. I always look at the pictures she posts, and we text all the time and call each other. I know. We need another trip. Let's go. They need to come on. Pack a bag. I know. They're coming up here or are we going down there? Either way. I'm gonna go see those jokers on Christmas.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

The road travels both ways.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

It sure does. And now that Lily's driving, she could bring her ass up here.

SPEAKER_00 28:46

You know they're always invited. All right. Well, should we wrap up our mother's? I guess so.

SPEAKER_01 28:51

We want to wish everyone out there a happy Mother's Day, whether you're a mother, a father, an aunt, a grandma, however you came into the role. God bless you. God bless us all. Oh God.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Cassie, may the Lord help us. You do whatever you need to do.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

You do it.

SPEAKER_00 29:10

Yes. So all the special women, people in our lives who have helped anything to do with a child. Right. I I mean, just it's it's extra special. It is special and don't miss it. Stay checked in. Please. Put your phones down, moms. Check in once in a while. I know. I know. Eye to eye contact. They're only babies for a little while. It only takes a minute. It's just, I mean, when you're going through it, it felt like, oh my god, will this week ever end? Sometimes it felt like, will this hour get over? Will this day end? I know.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

But now that it's gone, it's hard to believe how my dad's chaotic.

SPEAKER_00 29:54

I know, what you wouldn't give to live one of those days.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

I would do it again. In a minute. I know. All the Girl Scout meetings, dance classes, tap and ballet and the kids' club and everything that they were in and the school, swimming and bowling, and I don't know how I did it. But I'm here. I don't want to do it anymore.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

No.

unknown 30:14

No.

SPEAKER_00 30:15

We're living the glory days of motherhood. I know. Oh, glory days.

SPEAKER_01 30:19

We got our emptiness thing going on.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

And uh it's we're rocking it.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

Although sometimes you're like a big kid.

SPEAKER_00 30:26

Well You're like a bigger baby. No. I know. I know. I am a little spore run sometimes. I do whine a lot. Yeah. And on that, I guess we'll say Let's Wine. Let's wine. I think that's why we call that show Let's Wine.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

Because we do whine a lot.

SPEAKER_00 30:47

We whine a lot. We're both whiners.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

And we're both mothers.

SPEAKER_00 30:50

We're both mothers. But we did pretty good at that.

SPEAKER_01 30:53

Yeah, we did.

SPEAKER_00 30:53

Hey, kudos. Good job.

SPEAKER_01 30:55

Cheers. I know. Good job. We did it. All right. Well, happy Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day. We will be back with another episode on myths. Things that you were told by possibly your mother that turned out not to be true. So was your mother a big fat liar or not?

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Most of them were, according to our research. But if you have one you want to share with us, you can always email us at BStudios at myyahoo.com. Reach out on all the platforms. We're here for it. We want to hear what your myths are. Maybe you have some different ones than uh we remember. And uh we'd love to hear it here on Let's Wine with Brendan Stacy. Bye.